Thursday, July 20, 2006

Indology Survey for Witzelites

july 20th, 2006

for your entertainment.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Indology Fan Club < irrfanclub@gmail.com>
Date: Jul 20, 2006 4:05 AM
Subject: Indology Survey for Witzelites
To: irrfanclub@gmail.com

Dear friend,

 

This survey was emailed to all academics who signed the famous Witzel petition. Any help on follow-up via the Indian (or Hindu) NRI community on this will be highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

- Indology Fan Club

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Dear Sir/Madam,

You are one of a group of people who have been listed as scholars of international repute in petition filed with California Board of Education.
 
I am compiling and publishing the facts surrounding the California middle school textbook corrections which you opposed. As you may recall, you signed your name, and your institutional affiliation, to lend credibility to a letter written by the Friends of South Asia / Mr. Michael Witzel addressed to the California State Board of Education (See
http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/%7Ewitzel/witzelletter.pdf ), alleging various intents and ascribing various motives to the parents who were trying to get the texts corrected.

 
I would like to try to be accurate in describing your actions. So please provide answers to the following questions.


1. Before you signed that letter, did you read the complete set of edits approved by the Ad Hoc Content Review Panel appointed by the CSBE, on Hinduism and India?


2. If you answered Yes to #1, please attach a copy of an email that you wrote after reading them, but before you signed that letter, indicating that you had read them. Obviously this is a critical issue, since you signed to the effect that you had familiarized yourself with the edits - and were described as a "world expert" on the matters where the letter claimed competence.

3. If you answered Yes to #1, did you compare the scope, extent, and sources of the edits proposed on Hinduism and India, to those on Islam, Judaism, Buddhism and Christianity? Please provide evidence of this comparison done before you endorsed the letter.

In the following, please describe your expertise in the matter of middle-school textbook content on India, Hinduism, and ancient Indian civilization. Please list subject areas, year and institution where you achieved degrees in related subject areas, and your work since then which supports the claim of expertise.


4. Have you been outside an airplane/airport in India in the past 10 years? (Please note: Nepal is NOT in India)
5. Please list the Indian languages you can read/write at least at a tenth-grade Indian state curriculum level.
 
6. Have you actually passed Sanskrit at the 6th-grade Indian Central Schools Curriculum (or equivalent, please specify) level?
 
7. Have you read any of Kalidasa's major works (can you name 4?)in the following in the original Sanskit?
8. Have you read the textbooks used in California's middle schools today, including the parts discussing India? Please name the books with which you are familiar.
9. Do you endorse Mr. Witzel's assertion that the Mahabharatha was written before the Ramayana?
10. Do you believe U. Chicago Pornographer Wendy Doniger's assertion that the Mahabharatha was written by Vyasa per dictation from Shri Ganesha?
11. If "no" to the above, do you believe the Mahabharatha was written by
a) Valmiki per dictation from Krishna
b) no one, since Dr. S.A. Farmer claims that the early Indians did not have any written script until they were educated by Alexander the Great, who learned Sanskrit from the 900 Theses of Pico in Rome.

The next questions relate to the logic you used.

12. What was Valmiki's caste?
13. How did Valmiki learn to write, given that you believe that several castes were kept illiterate in ancient India?
14. What was the caste of Thunjath Ezhuttassan (what work is he famous for?) What does the "caste" name "Ezhuthassan" mean?
15. In the Ramayana, who was Mr. Seeth to Ms. Rama?

16. What is "Marumakattaayam"?
a. A South Indian dessert
b. A system of inheritance
c. A form of gay marriage among the fascist right-wing Hindutva

17. Please describe your acquaintance / working relationship with Mr. Witzel, Mr. S. Farmer, and other entities involved in this matter. Specify how Mr. Witzel is acquainted with your expertise in order to have described it in the letter.

18. Do you deny that you are a member of the Yahoo Group, "IndoEurasian Research", run by Mr. Witzel from Harvard, and Mr. Farmer, that has been widely and repeatedly quoted as making racist hate speech ?

19. Do you deny that you are a member of the Friends of South Asia (a.ka. Pakistan-American Alliance, a.k.a. Inter Services Intelligence, a.k.a. Lashkar-e-Toiba)? The Forum of Inquilabi/ Indian Leftists, a.k.a. Communist Party of India (Marxist - Liberation)? Babbar Khalsa a.k.a. Khalistan? Liberation Tamil Tigers of Eelam, a.k.a. Federation of Tamils in America?

20. Are you acquainted with Mr. Arun B. Vajpayee, the brave graduate student in California whom Mr. Witzel described as having alerted him to the impending dangers of the textbooks being corrected? If so, please state how you are acquainted with him.


The following relate to your positions on the textbooks:

21. Are you a practising believer in the Hindu faith?

22. Do you agree with the Harvard PhD and UC Berkeley faculty member who claims that one has to be born a Hindu to be a practising Hindu?

23. Can you name 5 Hindu religious holidays?

24. Do you agree that these holidays should be given equal importance to Jewish, Christian and Islamic holidays?

25. Your letter specifically threatened CSBE's Ruth Green with an "international scandal" unless she stopped the textbook process and inserted Mr. Witzel and his consulting pals into the process. Could you explain this threat?

26. Were you perhaps threatening to expose Commissioner Alan Bersin's financial dealings in his former job, or his current conflict of interest?

27. Do you deny knowing that Mr. Bersin is a Harvard Overseer / Trustee charged with fundraising for Harvard, while hiring a Harvard professor as a consultant to a position where he can direct the multi-hundred-million-dollar California textbook budget to Harvard?

28. Did you disagree with Mr. Witzel's and Mr. Farmer's attempts to put pictures of latrine-cleaning in middle school textbooks to humiliate Indian-American children?

29. Did you object to Mr. Witzel's declaration that Indian-American Hindus are "HIINAs" and that their daughters study Indian dance because of poor morals?

30. Do you think it is uacceptable ethics at your university for a professor to go and change his /her teaching evaluations on a website to read all glowing and identical?


Thank you for your answers in advance.
 
Yours truly,
- Indology Club

14 comments:

Ghost Writer said...

I am trying to find out on the Harvard web site - what is the process for filing a complaint / initiating procededings against a department or professor.

Surely there must be a way through which we can challenge Harvard (not Witzel himself). I think if we go after his employers it will rattle the tree more effectively. Afterall, if the late Ken Lay and his employers can be taken to task in the corporate world - I am sure there must be a legal way to prosecute other emplyers that pay people to perpetrate fraud ? ... no?

IRFAN said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
Ghost Writer said...

BEAT THE BLOG BLOCKADE
Is there a way for you to set your computer to use a specific DNS server?
Look at this article
If folks in India set their DNS server to a foreign, public DNS server that does not redirect blog URL's to a NULL IP that should do the trick. right? .. this way they dont have to go to pkblogs.com (am thinking what happens if that gets blocked too)
Also - how can we come up with a list of DNS servers for them to use?

Come on folks - it's time to beat the dumb-ass idiots who think they can get away with this stupidity!

IRFAN said...

Isn't it easier to post a list of sites that are coming up "404", through email etc.??

Then people outside can go to those sites, and re-post the material elsewhere (with acknowledgement, of course).

Net result: Ban a site - it's hit rate zooms, and its content gets widely distributed as being deemed interesting enuf to be banned. :-)
For instance, here is the List of 17 announced so far:

LIST OF BLOCKED SITES

1. www .hinduunity.org
2. mypetjawa.mu.nu
3. pajamaeditors.blogspot.com
4. exposingtheleft.blogspot.com
5. thepiratescove.us
6. commonfolkcommonsense.blogspo t.com
7. bamapachyderm.com
8. princesskimberley.blogspot.com
9. merrimusings.typepad.com
10. mackers-world.com
11. www.dalistan.org
12. www .hinduhumanrights.org/hindufocus.html
13. www .nndh.com
14. bloodroyaltriped.com
15. imagesearchyahoo.com
16. www .imamali8.com
17. www .rahulyadav.com

So why are these so interesting? I know "dalitstan.org" is just anti-India, anti-Hindu trash from a fundamentalist Christian conversionist gang, and it's mostly videos of Harvard faculty learning to clean their own latrines since they are not potty-trained. Nothing else there.

But the other sites?

siva said...

I heard the open source interview through the profiting from terrorism link. I used to wonder why all the right wing wachos in the US call the US leftists as loony left. Not any more. Can there be a bunch of people who are more opinionated and removed from reality than this Indian (and US) loony leftist commies? It is amazing how they live in their own make believe world but still pontificate others.

Ghost Writer said...

Wonder what
this
was about.
Incidentally it so transpires that the film director in question used to make flicks of a ... well .. quaint variety!!!!

The next thing we will here is that this is all because Doordarshan gave 10 Cr. to a dancer to make films about women in Gujarat.

Revenge taken to it's logical conclusion. Damn Nazi Hindus!!!!
And I always thought the Sekoolar were for free speech.

slim_shady said...

Hi,

Please see following article:

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20060701faessay85401/gurcharan-das/the-india-model.html

thank you.

iamfordemocracy said...

Ghost Writer, that was an interesting post. By now, there should have been dozens of movies on the theme of Sonia Gandhi's life. Masses in India understand issues best through the films medium.

The unimaginative and boring BJP has failed to use the most potent medium to their benefit. With a few good hard hitting movies, Indian would never have had to face the draconian rule that we are seeing just now.

Ghost Writer said...

The Land of the Free and The Land of the Pure

It must be so foggy in Foggy Bottom that people cannot tell their ass from their elbow!!!

....but this is the charitable view. A more realistic (and yes ...caustic) analysis done a few years ago here


Pakistan is a millstone around our neck. It is a convenient pawn (or "International Condom") - not just for China, but for the Yankees to limit Indian strategic options in a world where

1- Nukes and missiles
2- Water (yes Water), and
3- Energy and its sources

are the supreme guarantee for security

We are being throttled by this Status Quo.

1- Pakistan is your neighbour
2- Pakistan has nukes and missiles
3- Pakistan is Islamic and so is a minority in your country

ERGO - learn to get along. Right? - WRONG

We have to turn the Pakistani fondness for violence inwards. We have to change this to the following

1- Pakhtunistan is for the Pakhtuns
2- Balochistan is for the Baloch
3- Sindhudesh is for the Sindhis - who have a significant Mohajir minority

They all have guns, they all grow opium which is sold in the West, have Islamic populations that resent the west (especially on the Palestinian issue and Iraq), they all support their brother Uighurs in their quest for "Self-determination".

Instead of us dealing with an evil Simian twin - let Foggy Bottom baby-sit five or six of them. Time to present them with a Fait Accompli.....Of course - we will have nothing to do with any of these movements and can always ask for proof when accused!

I concede their will be an issue related to refugees, folks that suddenly find the "Land of the Kafirs" more appealing. But this is not a hard problem to get over ....


... oh and BTW - did I also mention that this may create a head ache for the Iranians?

kautilya said...

ROTFL ... check this.. b4 my blog is blocked :-)))

What's the point?

bly243001 said...

This is just in...

Lalu Prasad Yadav says there were no bomb blasts in Mumbai trains. Passengers on those trains spontaneously exploded due to high heat and humidity.

iamfordemocracy said...

About the possible reasons behind the blocking of blocks could be a pressure from media! With the blogosphere expanding, people must have started posting on the blogs of their choice rather than IE, NDTV, and IBN. The media must have requested the gov to do something about it. The buddies got together and blocked the blogs....forcing people to post their comments on NDTV and IBN websites. Guys, tell everyone not to do that! It is hard cash for the perpetrators of injustice!

iamfordemocracy said...

The Hezbollah website is hosted by vsnl!! And hinduhmanrights is banned!! How much more secular can the present government get?

iamfordemocracy said...

I found these details on the blog

Scroll down a little to find the following....

Name: almanar.com.lbStatus: activeAddress: 203.86.96.30Registrar: .LB Domain Registry, Beirut, LBDatacenter: VSNL, Mumbai, INWebhost: brainpulse.com, Noida (U.P.) INDNS Provider: brainpulse.com, Noida (U.P.) IN

Description:Official site of Hizballah satellite TV station Al Manar.